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Sticker Shock: ATM industry attacks fee-notice rule

"Enough already."

This was the gist of a letter sent on Feb. 8 by the NACS and six cosigners to the House Committee on Financial Services.

The letter petitioned the committee for "assistance in eliminating an unnecessary ATM fee disclosure requirement that has encouraged a large and growing number of frivolous lawsuits across the nation."

The disclosure in question relates to an FDIC regulation (Regulation E — 12 CFR 205.16) enacted in 1991 that required anyone operating an ATM to "post in a prominent and conspicuous location" a notice that fees will (or may) be charged for a balance inquiry or electronic fund transfer services.

The same notice was to be displayed on the ATM screen, though regulations allowed an exemption for machines that lacked the technical capability to comply. When that exemption expired on December 31, 2004, the "placard rule" became annoyingly redundant. Worse, said Bryan Bauer, president of Kahuna ATM solutions, it became detrimental.

"At that time surcharge was just becoming public. Consumers maybe hadn’t used an ATM before," he said. "But it’s one of those things that’s past its useful life and it’s causing huge problems in our industry."

By way of example, Bauer described a fax he received in the past week from an attorney in Massachusetts, who was threatening to file a complaint in regard to an ATM in eastern Texas. The fax "basically stat[ed], 'I have drafted a complaint, I’m looking to file this within the next week or so … Call me to resolve this before I file the complaint,'" said Bauer.


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Never mind that the ATM in question was not one affiliated with Kahuna. If a complaint were filed, the company would be required to respond, at which point the clock would begin on attorney’s fees. "In my opinion, there’s no doubt about it, it’s modern day extortion," Bauer said.

Josh Ettesvold, president of Express Teller Services, also voiced annoyance that the rule was still in effect given that nowadays the ATM itself is programmed to preclude user ignorance about fees. "It prompts you on the screen and you have to accept the fee," he said. "So even if [the notice] is not affixed to the ATM, you still have to accept the fee by pressing the button, 'yes, I accept' or 'no, I decline'. So to me it’s frivolous." 

Such frustration can be heard throughout the ATM industry, where to date placard lawsuits have been filed in 20 states.

As of last June, CUNA Mutual alone reported 44 open claims related to class action lawsuits alleging violations of fee disclosure regulations. Loss exposure for these cases was expected to exceed $3 million. Many such cases are never tried, but are instead settled out of court just to get rid of them.

And it’s not just FIs and other owners who have found themselves in legal skirmishes over the placard rule, said Howard Latshaw, national sales manager for the ATM branding firm GetBranded.com. "[Plaintiffs] just go in and sue everybody that’s involved," he said. "They sue the merchant, and if there’s a bank sponsor they sue the bank sponsor and sue the ISO and the deployer. So they just sue everybody and then whoever has the deepest pockets usually ends up paying on it."

Latshaw said he hears regularly from deployers who have fought — or are engaged in fighting — placard complaints. "We generally field maybe one or two calls a week from customers that are either in litigation or have gone through a lawsuit and they’re looking for a better way to protect the fee notification," Latshaw said. Generally, he said, these were operators that had applied decal signage. "The big problem is that [people] remove the decal and take pictures of it and start a class action lawsuit."

One solution to this problem is to incorporate the fee notice into mid-topper signage, which is much more difficult to remove. Ettesvold largely credited this approach for the fact that his company had not been named in a lawsuit to date. Express Teller replaces the basic mid-topper signage that comes on all of its new machines with a branded panel that includes the fee notification. "If anyone wants to get that ATM wrapped in a lawsuit or accuse us of having noncompliance, they’re going to have tear that entire mid-topper off the machine in order to get it," he said.

Ettesvold said that the replacement signage cost about $20, as opposed to the cost of a sticker, which was about $2. According to Latshaw, the cost of adding a topper to a machine that didn't originally have one was about $200 — which is often still less expensive than an hour or two of a lawyer’s time.

Removing the stickers for good

Bauer was confident that the efforts of industry members would eventually result in the repeal of the placard rule. "I think there’s a good chance of us being successful here," he said. "It’s been brought to the attention of several of the right people to make a change. It’s just with anything it takes time."

The current pre-election gridlock in Congress and many government departments makes it very difficult to guess when that might be. Additionally, said Bauer, it was not entirely clear whether the regulation could simply be scrapped by the Fed or would require Congressional action, which might be slower and more complicated.

In the meantime, Ettesvold said, an ATM operator could minimize the likelihood of a lawsuit with a mid-topper, or barring that option, could employ simple procedures that would prove that physical notification had been applied to the ATM, but that it had either fallen off or been taken off. He recommended that deployers:

  1. Address signage requirements in policies and procedures. Include instructions in all implementation, service call and cash drop checklists to confirm that the notice is in place.
  2. Conduct periodic reviews of ATMs to ensure that fee-notice stickers are affixed. At the same time, take date-stamped photos of the terminal, including buildings or landmarks around it for visual context. Take new photos if an ATM is moved to a different location.
  3. Document that stickers have been applied at the time of installation. Take a date-stamped photo of the sticker being placed on the machine.
  4. Demonstrate that a sticker has been removed by taking photos of the sticky residue left behind.

"It’s sad that we have to play defense on this," Ettesvold said. "When [a change] happens we automatically have to try to figure out, okay, how are we going to prevent a lawsuit and you have to get creative, and unfortunately it’s not cheap to do that."

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  • Dan Dougherty
    about 3 months ago
    For years I have worked for an ATM cleaning company. It's no longer about cleaning. It's about compliance! It's unfortunate that somehow it is ok to kick mud at a bank right now. Unfortunately there is not a great solution other than to build systems that ensure you are safe. That is easy to say and hard to do.
    I recently looked over data of 20,000 ATMs and on average 12% of the ATM fee notices are missing or need to be replaced. That's a problem! This cannot be managed from a desktop unless you have a software package that organizes those photos on a component level and you can see your fee notice at every ATM. That's the only way to fight it. Think fee notices are a problem? ADA requirements are going to get ugly really quick. Braille decals are only one component to worry about unfortunately.
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  • Russell Wilson
    about 3 months ago
    First of all, in order for a person to sue a business for not displaying the Fee Notice, they must show a doccument of the transaction (Receipt). Second of all, the receipt should express the person's decision to acceot the transaction fee, and how much a fee was accepted.
    This would hang them in a court of law! If they accepted the fee, and their evidence indicated their acceptance of the fee; they shouldn't have a case.
  • Dave Peterson
    about 3 months ago
    Well Russell Wilson, the jerk that sued us had a receipt and accepted the fee electronically. He also likely removed our fee notice! We think that he is only one of a group of patsies going around doing the dirty work for a group of lawyers that have a racquet going with Reg E lawsuits. It didn't matter that he had electronically accepted to pay the fee and it did not hang them in a court of law. The law reads "AND" not OR. The judge told us that the moment that notice comes off, we are out of compliance... no matter how the sticker got removed.

    My advice to anyone that is hit with a Reg E lawsuit:

    SETTLE IMMEDIATELY!

    Do NOT pay a lawyer to defend you... EVEN if you KNOW you can prove you are innocent. We were naive enough to believe our lawyer when he told us we could win this thing so let's take it all the way. We were in $25K to our lawyer after the first depositions were taken on us as the corporation. We were then told by the opposing lawyer that we would be called again to be deposed as individuals. The lawyer can depose each party for 7 hours.

    We're guessing that if we could have afforded to take it all the way to a jury trial, and won, we would have been in to our lawyer for around $70K given all the hoops the Federal Judge wanted us to jump through.
    When we got our lawyer's bill after the first deposition, that's when we said to stop the bleeding. We were then required to pay a mediator $400. per hour to reach a settlement.

    The question is do you settle immediately or try to win all the while their expenses continue to accrue. We're in San Jose. We were sued by someone from San Diego!!!

    As a mom and pop, with just our own lawyer's fees, who can afford to make it to a jury trial to show the glue residue or compliance picture(s)? Oh, and if the other side is awarded just his transaction fee, you now have to pay the other lawyer's fees as well... that is IF you win. With all the lawyer's double questions where the answer to one part of the question is yes and the other part is no, it's exhausting to keep straight. Unless you are a professional witness and have their mind games figured out, I don't care how innocent you are... by the time he's done with you you'll think you're guilty and a jury would probably agree.

    Every month when I pay on the settlement, it takes every ounce of self control I have to not write EXTORTION across the front of the check. We were told we were just one of 26 cases that this particular lawyer had. We even had one of the pre-deposition questionnaires come to us with a business name and address from Maryland instead of our name and and California address on the paperwork.

    What has our country come to if our FEDERAL, presidentially appointed, Congressionally approved judges are spending their time on atm fee notices??? Also, tell me how anyone is harmed that agrees electronically to pay a fee to receive money... much less a whole class. It doesn't matter, we were told... the law is the law.

    I can just see these same bottom feeder lawyers chomping at the bit for March 15 to arrive! After what they've been allowed to get away with on Reg E compliance, I bet ADA is going to be a piranha frenzy! What really sucks is the only way to prove financial hardship is in court. If you thought you had financial hardship before you end up in court...

    I sincerely hope that there really is such a thing as karma because that is the only justice left. So far as I can tell, our legal system is a pathetic joke.
  • Suzanne Cluckey
    about 3 months ago
    Editor's note:

    Hi Dave, if you have not done so already, I would strongly urge you to share your story with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. They are currently in the open comment phase of their review of the fee notice rule. Comments will help the CFPB determine whether they should recommend a repeal of this rule to Congress and what priority such action should be given.

    We'll be running a feature about the new CFPB comment site next week. In the meantime, you can share your experience with the bureau by visiting the site at http://www.consumerfinance.gov/regcomments/
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